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FriendFeed from the command line [Paul Buchheit - 3/27/08]

July 29, 2008 12:44 AM - Sign in to comment - Link

Paul Buchheit - "Sometimes, it's faster and easier to just use the command line. Thanks to the new FriendFeed API, I was able write a little script that connects my command line to my FriendFeed." - Bash script to upload images to FF. - Mitchell Tsai

I love Bret Taylor's comment "I still have nightmares about him [Paul Buchheit] launching a major redesign of the product through a FriendFeed message :)" http://friendfeed.com/e/f857524a-d950-43b3-bf92-b55ea93b0c8c - Mitchell Tsai

FriendFeed from the command line - (jeff)isageek

I'll send help. - Cyndy

That is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. - Derrick Burns

lol, now subscribed to Derrick - David Knight

Paul is a sick man. I love it. - Rob Diana

Why do I get the urge to port it to Powershell? *Must.Resist* - Yuvi

Lovely thing about Mac OS X is having unix command line for emergencies. Pop open the Terminal window. Love showing some people ftp or directory the old way... (when a computer's window manager is really freaking out). - Mitchell Tsai

could you text the command up to the file? - Noah David Simon

I'm sorry, but what's a "command line"? ;) - Meryn Stol

Mitchell - I'm the same way. I love csh. Just don't rm -r *.* :P - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

dork... I'm an ms-dos guy - Noah David Simon

which reminds me to finally try out ms powershell for vista [hei, i do have my selection of uhnieks tools available here and no, no cygnus. ] - Nicole Simon

Bret Taylor - "He [Paul Buchheit] informed me that unless I am around to write a blog post, he is only using FriendFeed because he can do it from the command line." http://friendfeed.com/e/f857524a-d950-43b3-bf92-b55ea93b0c8c - Mitchell Tsai

Sad: Usually the only thing I do on a command-line now is "ping" to see how good/bad my internet connection is when a webpage is slow to load. :-( - Mitchell Tsai

geekalicious! - Sarah Perez

I can share to Friendfeed from Vim, but I haven't done much work on FFeedVim beyond the basics of posting text and pictures. - Morton Fox

Very interesting! - Bill Sodeman

FriendFeed from the command line - (jeff)isageek

Svetlana Gladkova posted an entry

MyBlogLog Redesigns the Site: Why Don’t They Follow FriendFeed Pattern?

July 28, 2008 10:33 PM - Sign in to comment - Link

Today the rather popular network for bloggers MyBlogLog announces redesign of their website - unfortunately, without any new features or without following the obvious pattern of FriendFeed. In general it seems to me that the company has decided to stick to changing the design whenever they feel that some improvements are needed. But unfortunately new design does not guarantee popularity for the service. True, the new version of their community widget for blogs drew enough attention to the product back in February and made some bloggers rethink their opinions about displaying the widget so I now see it more... [Tags: aggregates, decisions, friendfeed, functionality, improvements]

Liked by Richard Binhammer, Tamar Weinberg, Daniel Smith, Jason R. Hunter, Svetlana Gladkova and Louis Gray

MyBlogLog Redesigns the Site: Why Don’t They Follow FriendFeed Pattern? - Louis Gray

MyBlogLog Redesigns the Site: Why Don’t They Follow FriendFeed Pattern? - Rahsheen Porter

MyBlogLog Redesigns the Site: Why Don’t They Follow FriendFeed Pattern? - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Reading MyBlogLog Redesigns the Site: Why Don’t They Follow FriendFeed Pattern? at http://tinyurl.com/5cn657 - Kenichi Matsumoto

MyBlogLog Redesigns the Site: Why Don’t They Follow FriendFeed Pattern? - Brent

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The Friendfeedization Of Facebook

July 21, 2008 1:39 AM - Sign in to comment - Link

As Facebook continues to roll out the full version of its new user profiles, it’s becoming clear that their primary goal isn’t, as they said in May, to simply create a cleaner user experience and allow developers to have more meaningful engagement points with users. It’s more about highlighting new content relevant to the user and fostering conversations about that content. And the result is that the Facebook home page looks an awful lot like the exponentially smaller activity stream aggregation service called Friendfeed. The new site will likely launch publicly on Monday. Until then, anyone can log in at... [Tags: activity stream, aggregation, algorithmic, application platform, backburner]

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The Friendfeedization Of Facebook - Erick Schonfeld

"As Facebook continues to roll out the full version of its new user profiles, it’s becoming clear that their primary goal isn’t, as they said in May, to simply create a cleaner user experience and allow developers to have more meaningful engagement points with users. It’s more about highlighting new content relevant to the user and fostering conversations about that content. And the result is that the Facebook home page looks an awful lot like the exponentially smaller activity stream aggregation service called Friendfeed." - Louis Gray

From comments: "I think it is inappropriate to claim Facebook is being “FriendFeedized” when FriendFeed’s entire business is a direct rip of Facebook’s News Feed concept. Those guys should really expect nothing less than seeing all of their innovations integrated into Facebook. As long as Facebook continues to innovate in the newsfeed segment, Friend Feed will remain a marginal player for nerds." - Chris White

As opposed to all the super cool people on Facebook. :) - Chris White

The Friendfeedization Of Facebook - Louis Gray

there is ONE thing Facebook cannot replicate from Friendfeed. Speed of execution. FriendFeed will always be better and will always be one step ahead - ouriel

facebook who? - Fred Grott

The Friendfeedization Of Facebook - huixing

That would be the site with 60m monthly visitors Fred. - Jamie

Coming from the other side, I’d like to see the Facebookization of Friendfeed (without sucking that is). FF is a great place for content and discussion, but not so much for community and social networking. - Hao Chen

The Friendfeedization Of Facebook - Igor Poltavskiy

The Friendfeedization Of Facebook http://tinyurl.com/5933bb - michael arrington

We knew it was coming, but it's interesting to actually see the new profile page, and know how much of it has been influenced by what all of us have been doing here on ff. - Iain Baker

Facebook's largely self-contained, immersive "social" and "fun" walled garden works especially well for interpersonal relations, and the upcoming facelift improves on those same principles. I'm impressed. That said, it's too "heavyweight" for active group conversations, which is why it's great to have both FB and FF, each optimized around their use cases. - Amir Gharaat

Probably the best thing Facebook could come up with for us, FriendFeed addicts. - Svetlana Gladkova

The only thing I'm sure of is that Facebook will be unable to recommend the same 9 persons to add as friends to everyone - so hopefully we will still be able to choose exactly who we want to talk to. - Svetlana Gladkova

Facebook needed a new design and this was the obvious route. - Bob

The Friendfeedization Of Facebook - rchk

Friendfeed = open; facebook = closed; this would be an area i'd be happy to see facebook copy - Alex Gawley

what does this mean for FriendFeed? - Matt Baron

"As Facebook continues to roll out the full version of its new user profiles, it's becoming clear that their primary goal isn't, as they said in May, to simply create a cleaner user experience and allow developers to have more meaningful engagement points with users. " - tech.newsjunk.com

[TechCrunch]: The Friendfeedization Of Facebook - tech.newsjunk.com

The Friendfeedization Of Facebook - AJ Batac

Facebook will still remain a network of closed networks :). What I like about Friendfeed is how items from other users enter a feed when a network contact likes a particular item. - Lon Seidman

The Friendfeedization Of Facebook - (jeff)isageek

@Lon. I agree with that. I wouldn't want random people to take over my Facebook. Also, the Facebook feature isn't as FriendFeed-like as Michael let's on. Since active conversations don't bubble to the top, they are likely to die out very quickly. - Matt Baron

Facebook is boring as hell. - Thomas Hawk

There are still no comments on the actual newfeed though ... I'm not sure they'll be adding this anytime soon - Nick O'Neill

@Thomas, LOL... I always crack up when I see, in any FB thread your "Facebook is boring". - Juan Pablo González

+1 @biznickman. The thing that made FF explode is the comments. How many of us would be here without them? - DeWitt Clinton

Friendfeed lays it all out as a stream of posts and comments. It's like reading a newspaper. Just my style. - david

you guys do know that Facebook sends out an email notification if there are new comments on a cluster you have commented on? Respawning the conversation to the top of the news feed is not necessary in that model. @Nick there is a comments link in the news feed for status updates and a few other things from what I can see... - Jamie

@Matt Baron I don't think there is any overlap between FF and FB. There is a distinct person that uses FF, the tech-savvy web evangelist, as opposed to FB, which is a lot more mainstream. Further, I think the value prop. of FF is that it's the best damn aggregator of web services, which is not FB's cup of tea (at least not yet) - Charles Ju

only thing more lame than commenting on a comment is writing a blog post about it :) - Mukund

Facebook has lost its mojo really fast, I winder if the same will happen to FriendFeed - João Almeida

@Joao lost its mojo with who? The twittersphere? Facebook was doing just fine before and after they jumped on and off the bandwagon. According to FB, UUs and engagement are up every month. - Jamie

This move means that a lot of people on Facebook won't ever try Friendfeed. For mainstream users who aren't active on a variety of networks and don't need the research capabilities, the FF advantage in fun and interaction just vaporized. Plus, mainstream users like the safety of keeping their interactions more private, so Facebook feels safer. I personally take the opposite view! - Jim Ierley

I think we'll have to see how it sits when using the new functions regularly. I'll judge then. - Todd Brunner

It's frustrating how they're crippling the FF app by defaulting the display to "One-line", e.g. "Jim has activity on Friendfeed". Manually expanding each entry is not an option. Does anyone know how to default the new Facebook Wall to display Friendfeed application entries as "Short"? - Jim Ierley

You all miss the best part of FriendFeed and the one that'll have the biggest long-term impact: the search engine. Also, Facebook doesn't import half the stuff that FriendFeed does and because Facebook has its own photo, video, and event services there's a huge incentive for them to treat outsiders as second-class citizens. - Robert Scoble

@Jim what do you think was FB's motivation for "crippling" the FF app? Do you think that the FF folks are working on a workaround? This FB-FF battle is going to be "fun" to watch, won't it? - Thomas Ho

As long as Facebook remains a closed system it will not be a app I use routinely. - Jon-Paul Bussoli

Almeida: yeah, Facebook is growing as fast as ever and tons of "normal people" swear by it. Just because us early-adopter-inside-the-techie-bubble are over here playing on FriendFeed, don't assume that everyone else is. 110 million are on Facebook, maybe more by now. When I went to Israel all I heard was "Facebook, Facebook, Facebook." Same with my niece and lots of others here in Silicon Valley. Also, its event calendar brings tons more people than others. - Robert Scoble

I'm not sure how this will all turn out. Since I've began using FF I don't update my status on FB much. - Niguel Valley

@scobleizer characterizes FF users as 2nd-class citizens on FB so I'm thinking about which "passport" I want to "carry"... - Thomas Ho

HOW will we get a 'visa' to visit FB (I guess that depends on Facebook Connect) if we choose FF 'citizenship' ? - Thomas Ho

Robert, I agree that FF rocks for research. It's my personal command center, but most people don't care about that or having all the best-of-breed web apps at their disposal. Those plain Jane Facebook services fit their basic expectations and they can do it all in one place, now with FF-style commenting built in. - Jim Ierley

Communities are communities. - Andrew Feinberg

Typical conversation with Real World Friends: "So I saw this post on Friend Feed..." "What's that?" "It's this website where it aggregates everything you do on various social networks" "Social Networks? Like..." "Flickr, Twitter, Yelp..." (Blank Stares) "Websites like Facebook are social.." "OHHH FACEBOOK.. That's the best site ever. *blah blah blah" - George Smith

Alex Gawley: Seems that Facebook no longer will be closed. "This week facebook will also launch their Facebook Connect product, which is designed to let users get that data back out of Facebook." http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/09/facebook-responds-to-myspace-with-facebook-connect/ - Alex Sauceda

but do you think the average FB user is going to use the "comment on news feed" feature? a quick scan of some of my heavy-user FB friends last week showed no comments on any news feed items, and then a couple days ago i noticed someone's status message was "I hate all these comment tags on facebook now"... - Trent Olson

LOL @ Friendfeedization - Bwana McCall

I love FF but all my non geeks friends and family are on Facebook. Seems that it works better for them. - Alex Sauceda

FF is more for power users while Facebook is for your average user who a) wants to or can aggregate some other services and b) wants to reconnect/stay connected with friends. Essentially different markets. Thing is, I understand how Facebook makes money. What's FriendFeed's business plan? People joke about Twitter not making money but FF has the same problem. - Jason B.

Keep in mind, that 18 months ago you could not have had this conversation with anyone who was not 1) in the SV echo chamber or 2) in college. Web services start small and some inflect to a larger community and some don't. - Sacca

My friends on FB go to Flickr for conversation. None of them are on FF. I add FF contacts in FB to view their bios. - Russellreno

good point, Trent. I figure that people will use it more for photo comments than anything else. - Jim Ierley

Louis - Agreed but I think the reason is more that they're trying to do an even better job with targeted ads (to keep the price in check) ... ala GMail. I find my Facebook list growing from my activity on Friendfeed. Hmm - Charlie Anzman

Jason's right about the differing markets. I won't speak on the business plan side since I trust that the smart people at Friendfeed know how to make it work. - Jim Ierley

Was the FriendFeed mini-feed on Facebook axed: no summary, just a note showing something was added? It's doing that for Feedheads too. Is this happening with others folks? - Blake Cooper

Blake, if I understand what you're saying, it wasn't axed. They just defaulted the display to a "One-line" view. You can manually change each item to "Short" descriptions by clicking the little "Edit" link to the right, but that's really unworkable. They need to let us choose whether to let apps default to "Short", or else many apps will be useless. - Jim Ierley

Jim: Thanks! Does that mean that my friends would need to change this on their end to see more than 1 line? I have a lot of my friends who will stick to the default (i.e. will be overwhelmed by process for changing) and most likely will not see the content of my Google Reader Shared Items and FriendFeed activity. Sucks if that's the case. Thanks again. - Blake Cooper

I found a configuration that change get the default from "One-line" to "Short" on the FF app. Go here: http://www.new.facebook.com/editapps.php?v=all and click on the Edit icon. You'll have an option to set it right again. - Jim Ierley

good find Jim. but wow those settings are so comprehensive that they are kind of overwhelming. - Jamie

The Friendfeedization Of Facebook - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Jim: This is great, thanks! - Blake Cooper

Louis Gray posted an entry

The Talk About Rules for Social Following Is Getting Out of Hand

July 21, 2008 12:33 AM - Sign in to comment - Link

The issue of who to friend started well before social networking sites like Friendster and MySpace took hold, and before Twitter and FriendFeed changed the game in terms of how adding somebody as a friend could open a floodgate of ...... [Tags: aim, casual acquaintances, close friends, college roommate, conflict]

New Blog Post: The Talk About Rules for Social Following Is Getting Out of Hand http://tinyurl.com/illfollowyou - Louis Gray

The Talk About Rules for Social Following Is Getting Out of Hand - Louis Gray

I totally agree with your approach to friending people on FF. I am slow to friend new people unless they are personal friends, web acquaintances, or someone that consistently has something interesting to say. I see no problem with following people and not having them follow me or visa versa. For me FF is not only about communicating with friends, but is also about getting & sharing quality information with like minded people. My goal is to have a quality experience while keeping the noise to a minimum. - Jeff P. Henderson

Great post Louis! I do not auto follow people that follow me either. When someone follows me, I do take the time to look at their feed, likes and comments and judge if their interest are similar to mine. I try to review my subscribers (that I'm not subscribed to) weekly with the same criteria to see if I should be scribed to them. - Justin Korn

The Talk About Rules for Social Following Is Getting Out of Hand - Niklas Sjöström

great post on social following from @louisgray http://bit.ly/21gutY - Jodi Church-Wagner

The Talk About Rules for Social Following Is Getting Out of Hand - Rob Diana

I guess I was never hip, smart or cool enough to think any other way. I never understood why so many people followed me. I took the whole "friend" thing seriously and still do. I follow people who I personally know or "know of," or who say things I find interesting. I tried following lots of people but it was so much noise I had to back off. If this makes me a bad "social media friend" I'll live with it. Thanks for publishing this. - ScottBourne

I agree. Dropped a comment on your blog. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

The Talk About Rules for Social Following Is Getting Out of Hand - (jeff)isageek

The Talk About Rules for Social Following Is Getting Out of Hand - AJ Batac

I completely understand if you don't follow me. *cry* - Carolyn

Seems like people should be able to decide for themselves. I don't personally know very many of the people I follow...at least I haven't met them in person. :-) And not many people I really know are on FF or Twitter. I've chosen to follow lots of people I just "know of" because they have good insights and I learn things from them. And then there are some that I follow because they are adding interesting content...at least interesting to me. I figure we can all create what is a quality experience. - JMS

Yeah, you all thought I was being a whiner for this http://friendfeed.com/e/f30a4280-b81f-9fbe-6c6d-6cdc6429e0db/Announcing-to-the-world-how-you-only-follow/ and http://friendfeed.com/e/0d4d9705-7e8e-1179-b64b-c7692bccb95c/Today-s-Friendfeed-meme-is-nauseating-Going/: But now, who has the upper hand! Follow and unfollow people at will; don't make it into high school by defining and announcing the correct way to have social relationships. - Mark Trapp

These "follow" discussions make that awful song by John Denver run through my head. Now it can be stuck in yours, too. - Trish Robinson

There actually have been a couple of those big names that I've hidden because of their disdain for how people use FF. Well, partly that and their general pompous way of talking. That's noise I choose not to deal with. One of the great things about all this is you get to decide who you want to listen to and interact with. It's not like a workplace where you don't have a choice. - JMS

I see people who have commented here who aren't my friends so I wasn't going to respond j/k ha. It is getting a little extreme, I am not interested who follows me or is interested in what I say to an extent, I get enjoyment from the services I use and try to interact where I can. I feel priviliged to build up dialogue with the majority of people here as a lot of you have been involved for a long time and if you weren't to subscribe to me I wouldn't take it as an insult. - Joe Dawson

JMS, I unfollowed a supposedly well known person for the same reason. But then, all that person does is pontificate anyway. - Trish Robinson

Nowadays the rules for social following are simple: follow everyone, that's why maybe FF or twitter could have some way to group "friends" - João Almeida

The Talk About Rules for Social Following Is Getting Out of Hand - Mark Trapp

"The way I choose to follow people on FriendFeed was first, people I knew, or engaged with elsewhere, second, following people who engaged in my activity through comments and on the feeds of the others I followed, and third, friends that those I follow engaged with, and whom I shared interests." - Same here. I also look at activity on FriendFeed, if someone just signed up and added their twitter feed I don't really see a point in following (unless their twitters are extremely interesting). - John

I agree with Justin, I don't reciprocate a follow until I see the user's contributions to the friendfeedosphere. Same thing with Twitter (which is getting spammier lately) - Jorge Escobar

Louis, I still think you're the exception to the rule, maybe Scoble to, because you interact with people even if you don't follow them. I still think though that many in the so-called A-List don't care about their followers aside from bragging rights, which is why reciprocity isn't unreasonable as a mark of respect - Duncan Riley

@Duncan, appreciate it. I expect there's no "one right way" to engage. I just wanted to be sure people understood why I do what I do, and that if I don't have the automatic follow, it's no personal sleight. I expect to engage with everyone I can, when I can. It's for others to shoot me down if they think I'm tripping over my ego. So far, I hope, I'm safe. - Louis Gray

This is why I say you define yourself by who you follow. If you only follow people who use these tools as broadcast media, then you define yourself as a consumer and/or a fanboy/follower. If you follow only people who participate with you, then you are a participant. If you follow jerks, then you are most likely a jerk yourself (or will soon become one, because that's what you value). If you follow smart people, etc. etc. - Robert Scoble

my 2cents:1) immeadiate 'refriending' - whether its twitter, ff, fb, myspace or any of teh zillions of SNs out there - rewards the spammers and time wasters. 2) If I follow you because I think YOU"RE interesting, even if I comment on your feeds or blogs, I don' EXPECT that what i blog about will be interesting to you. 3) (value for money !!) I don't have the RESOURCES to follow back and read everybody - I have to discriminate somehow, regardless of how arbitrary it seems to you (or me) - martin english

Question: what's the etiquette when you're ending a relationship (irl)? I defriended on some, but linkedin, facebook ,flickr seemed diffuse enough that you could easily ignore someone's status. Chat- definitely removed, and twitter definitely removed also. Is this super geeky of me? Ha - anna

Sometimes, it's good to stop talking and just listen. In fact, if you're so busy forever talking you never listen, and listening is learning. It's all a balance. With FriendFeed you CAN do something quite successfully you can't do in "real life", and that's have a one-sided conversation. You talk, I listen or vice versa. It works well at times. I shall go shut up now, and read some more. - Ian May

my 0.02 - Don't never ever tell me how to use Twitter or Friendfeed. If you don't like how I use these sites, then unfollow / unfriend me. I got more important things to worry about. Someone at SocialMediaCamp SF was talking about "rules for good twittering" and I just about lost it. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

The Talk About Rules for Social Following Is Getting Out of Hand - Matteo